My Liver Helps Pad Your Amber Stomach: Being a complete dullard when it comes to economics, it’s only recently I had a light-bulb moment regarding the dynamics of libation pricing vis-a-vis ogling dens and beer boozers.
A few months ago a reader suggested ogling dens could afford to offer cheaper amber fluid and other thirst quenchers because their bar-fines for dancers were so high. He suggested, ‘the significantly higher bar-fines subsidise the beer prices in some places.’ He then noted, ‘Rents on beer bars are not comparable to go-gos in the same location. Per square metre, beer bars pay far more rent.’
In this respect he’s correct as, for example, the majority of the beer boozers in the Best Friend complex (Beach Road) are paying 60,000 baht a month. This is a ridiculous figure, yet people continue to pay these imposts and enough of them make money, otherwise the whole complex would have collapsed by now. Hence the reason for the high drinks prices.
The argument beer boozers need to charge higher prices because of higher rentals per square metre than ogling dens is fine if that were the only criteria. What about electricity, water, and staff? The girls employed in beer boozers also double as serving wenches and the average salary is not much more than 4,000 baht a month. Most average-sized beer boozers rarely have more than 10 paid staff.
Many boozers welcome freelancers who come and go as they please, but a customer must still pay the bar fine if he finds her propping up a barstool. So, if a boozer pays a silly 60,000 baht a month rent, has 10 working wenches at 4,000 baht a month each (so wages of 40,000 baht), and coughs up another 2-3,000 baht a month for electricity and water, outlays will run to a rounded-up 105,000 baht, or 3,500 baht a day.
Ogling dens, on the other hand, have to fork out for air-conditioning and greater lighting, hence kicking up the electricity bill. There’s also the monthly stipend to the plod retirement fund.
If a den has 25 dancers (average for many) it will be lucky to have 20 of these bar-fined every night. That’s 10,000 baht (at 500 baht a time), minus the 100 baht each returned to the dancer, leaving 8,000 baht as the ‘profit’. If this rate were maintained over a month the return would be around 240,000 baht. If the owner is paying his dancers the average salary of around 8,000 baht each per month then his monthly salary bill will be (for 25 dancers) 200,000 baht (less cuts for being late, taking days off and other misdemeanours).
As most people realise, having a 66 percent bar-fine rate each and every night for 12 months of the year is not realistic. Having up to two-thirds of your dancers bar-fined before closing time is also not conducive to bringing customers into the bar.
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Nightmarch from Pattaya
Category: Pattaya Nightmarch, Added: Jul 25, 2007,Are you one of the many Pattaya Addicts?
Category: General, Added: Jul 20, 2007, Add commentThen an excellent selection of resources is available to quench your insatiable cravings and Pattaya Addiction! Here is just a small selection of the many forums available.
Pattaya Talk - PattayaTalk is the biggest and busiest Pattaya forum on the internet. With over 10,000 members and a staggering 350,000 posts, there is no question that can not be answered (most already have been) and no information you can't find.
Pattaya Revealed - We are an independant Pattaya forum not run by any commercial establishment. We are a collection of friends from around the world that have a vast knowledge of Pattaya and Thailand as a whole.
Pattaya Addicts - Pattaya Addicts Forum the fastest growing Pattaya Forum and web-board on the internet
Pattaya Secrets - Pattaya information also Pattayas fastest growing chat board details you need to know about Pattaya Thailand.
*note - the above descriptions have been taken directly from the respective websites and obviously some of them need to be updated by the owners!
Also, please remember that whilst we recommend the above forum to Pattaya Addicts, ALL Pattaya forums offer information that is both 'biased' and often only comes from 'one perspective'. Read everything, then go and make your own decisions. You'll make mistakes, probably the same mistakes everybody else makes, but you'll learn the lessons the hard way, that way they'll 'stick'.
Pattaya Talk - PattayaTalk is the biggest and busiest Pattaya forum on the internet. With over 10,000 members and a staggering 350,000 posts, there is no question that can not be answered (most already have been) and no information you can't find.
Pattaya Revealed - We are an independant Pattaya forum not run by any commercial establishment. We are a collection of friends from around the world that have a vast knowledge of Pattaya and Thailand as a whole.
Pattaya Addicts - Pattaya Addicts Forum the fastest growing Pattaya Forum and web-board on the internet
Pattaya Secrets - Pattaya information also Pattayas fastest growing chat board details you need to know about Pattaya Thailand.
*note - the above descriptions have been taken directly from the respective websites and obviously some of them need to be updated by the owners!
Also, please remember that whilst we recommend the above forum to Pattaya Addicts, ALL Pattaya forums offer information that is both 'biased' and often only comes from 'one perspective'. Read everything, then go and make your own decisions. You'll make mistakes, probably the same mistakes everybody else makes, but you'll learn the lessons the hard way, that way they'll 'stick'.
The 'Darkside' FLB Bar Crawl
Category: FLB Bar Crawl, Added: Jul 19, 2007, 1 CommentFor some strange reason East Pattaya, that's the part of town over the main Sukumvit Highway, is often referred to as the 'Darkside'.
Seeing as though I actually have chosen to live in this part of town, I don't really 'get' the reference but it does add a sense of 'mystery' to the areas reputation.
Not for the first time, the famous FLB Bar Crawl has selected this area to explore, together with 20 intrepid travellers. Two Songthaews (Baht Buses) were arranged to meet the guys at Mikes Shopping Mall in Pattaya, before starting the 20 minute journey to the first venue ... La Guinguette.
La Guinguette is always one of the most popular destinations with guys on the FLB Bar Crawl, something about having a good selection of 'fun' girls mixed in with a private swimming pool always guarantees a good atmosphere!

The girls are really great fun, drink prices are very reasonable, even the lady drink prices at only 80 baht. The seating areas consist of four well ventilated 'grass hut' style, open sided constructions with offer sanctury from the sun and comfortable drinking.
However, if you do get a little hot, you always have the pool!
The girls are only too eager to join you as well, in fact rumour has it that if you visit La Guinguette at around 8pm in the evening, the pool is full of frollicking females ..... this has yet to be confirmed visually, but I'm sure one of us will get around to this eventually!
The next venue was the Black Pearl drinking / short time bar only 5 mins away. Generally, once again, this bar has an excellent selection of 'up for it' girls and competitive drinks prices. However, due to the fact that the owner has recently opened Black Pearl Two, the choice of girls was limited on this occasion.
Still some great fun to be had though and the 'Belly Tequilas' always go down well with guys and girls alike!
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Seeing as though I actually have chosen to live in this part of town, I don't really 'get' the reference but it does add a sense of 'mystery' to the areas reputation.
Not for the first time, the famous FLB Bar Crawl has selected this area to explore, together with 20 intrepid travellers. Two Songthaews (Baht Buses) were arranged to meet the guys at Mikes Shopping Mall in Pattaya, before starting the 20 minute journey to the first venue ... La Guinguette.
La Guinguette is always one of the most popular destinations with guys on the FLB Bar Crawl, something about having a good selection of 'fun' girls mixed in with a private swimming pool always guarantees a good atmosphere!


However, if you do get a little hot, you always have the pool!
The girls are only too eager to join you as well, in fact rumour has it that if you visit La Guinguette at around 8pm in the evening, the pool is full of frollicking females ..... this has yet to be confirmed visually, but I'm sure one of us will get around to this eventually!
The next venue was the Black Pearl drinking / short time bar only 5 mins away. Generally, once again, this bar has an excellent selection of 'up for it' girls and competitive drinks prices. However, due to the fact that the owner has recently opened Black Pearl Two, the choice of girls was limited on this occasion.
Still some great fun to be had though and the 'Belly Tequilas' always go down well with guys and girls alike!
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Birthday @ Metro Apartments, Soi LK Metro
Category: Hotels, Added: Jul 15, 2007, Add comment
Dennis is the owner of the Metro Apartments on Soi LK Metro, Pattaya and runs one of the best 'value for money' establishments in town. The Metro Apartments are very well finished, offering all the amenities one requires, and are situated in an excellent location - the 'up and coming' Soi LK Metro.
Whilst the Hotel / Guesthouse side of the business is doing extremely well, and often 'fully booked' even during the low season I may add, this is only one side of the venues appeal. The very large bar area makes for an ideal meeting place and, when added to the three well maintained (and free) pool tables results in one of the most laid back bars in Pattaya.
The girls are friendly without being 'overpowering' and the drink prices are more than reasonable. All in all, definitely worthy of a vacancy enquiry in advance of your next visit to Pattaya, but also worth a visit even if you end up staying somewhere else.

FLB / Pattaya Parties Boat Trip
Category: Daytime Activities, Added: Jul 02, 2007, Add commentAfter much talk and reminiscing about Sailing the Pattaya Waters with a crew of nubile females, we've finally decided to go ahead and restart the FLB Boat Trip! You've heard about these events haven't you? .... if not WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??!!
It's been nearly two years since the last one, but we've managed to secure the same boat, the MV Edina, she has been newly refurbished and truly is 'ship shape'. We've made the first booking for July 2nd 2007.
Unbelieveably, we've also managed to keep the prices the same as they we're two years ago. So for the full days Island Cruise, it's still 2500 for the guys and 500 baht for each girl you want to bring. As those guys who have been before will know though, you really don't have to bring a girl as the boat will be overflowing with a booty of FLB Girls.
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It's been nearly two years since the last one, but we've managed to secure the same boat, the MV Edina, she has been newly refurbished and truly is 'ship shape'. We've made the first booking for July 2nd 2007.
Unbelieveably, we've also managed to keep the prices the same as they we're two years ago. So for the full days Island Cruise, it's still 2500 for the guys and 500 baht for each girl you want to bring. As those guys who have been before will know though, you really don't have to bring a girl as the boat will be overflowing with a booty of FLB Girls.
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